>I am just now getting around to upgrading one of my apps from 3.01 to 4.0. All of my forms now throw a few .f. on the screen before becoming visible. I notice that the visible_assign method is doing this. I have set the visible property back to the default on my command buttons and assign the visible property in the Refresh.
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>However I get these .f. on any textbox or label that I left the visible property be set in the property sheet.
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>Thanks,
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>Paul Acton

This sounds like the TALK setting is ON which is the default for Private Datasession forms. Do you have a call to the form method DEBeforeOpenTables in your Dataenvironment BeforeOpenTables method? The priocess that this launches instantiate an object that reads the SET settings in the Default (1) datasesion and set the private datasession settings to the same.

HTH.