Sorry if I'm sounding dumb, but how is the change propagated back to VFP if you pass by value? I thought you had to pass by reference to get changes made by the called routine to be visible to the calling routine.

>>If he doesn't drop the @ from the call, then he needs it in the Declare, right?
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>They do different things and are not interchangable; the @ in the declaration determines if the parameter are passed by value or by reference, while the @ in the call determines whether or not changes made to a value in the function call propagate back to VFP. They are distinct and different, and not interchangable.