I'm frequently thrilled when VFP stays out of the forefront. I recently considered bidding on a Web job. I knew the guys asking for the bid, and I knew that they were expecting to spend $250,000, and I knew that's what people were bidding. After looking at the specs, I knew for sure that I could do the same job using West Wind for a fraction of the price and in a fraction of the time. I saw one bid (after I backed out of the bidding) where the developers proposed using Java and SQL Server, from scratch. I say let them. They'll be 6 months late in delivery, $100,000 over budget, and they'll have a product riddled with bugs. This particular job was more than my partner and I could handle at the time, but from experience, I knew that we could do the job at half that price (though we'd never tell the client that ;)) and on time, and with a fraction of the bugs (though I'm sure we'd have plenty to be proud of).

I think it is to our advantage that VFP is sometimes viewed as a bit fringe. Let them build their sites in Java!

>>I love when morons like that bash VFP. While they're struggling to do hard core data apps with VB or better yet, C++, we're whipping off applications, getting praise from clients, and sometimes putting those knuckleheads out of a job.
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>Yup! I'm the only FOX guy on a team of all Powerbuilder and Delphi developers. I'm running circles around these guys in terms of the number of applications developed. At this point I'm supporting nearly as many apps as the whole team combined. I'm not saying I'm better, I just think these tools aren't optimized for working with structured data.
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