>You don't give me one whit of 'gas' by having your own opinions. I'm an adult and I understand that yours may be contrary to mine. NBD actually.
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Too bad this philosphy is not always followed...< s >..


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I think the reason you seem to get yourself in the proverbial crosshairs is that, at times, you are attempting to hold others to a standard they do not wish to hold themselves to. Now, I'm all for having high standards and I will always try and encourage others to higher standards. I think that in your case your standards are exceedingly high and I applaud you for holding them that high.
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A good point. And thanks for the compliment..


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The 'problems', it seems to me, stem from when others perceive that you are attempting to somehow excoriate ot twist their figurative arms for not holding your standards. Let me illustrate. As a Christian I wish and pray that everyone would give their lives to Christ. I also understand that many will not. Do I treat those who do not take my position as "lessor". NO WAY! I try and treat those of a different persuasion absolutely equally to anyone else - no better, no worse. I have the obligation of living the standard FIRST, and if my standard is somehow 'higher' fine. I am NOT somehow a better person because Ihave standards higer than other folks do. No way are they any 'lessor' either. We just have different standards. Now, if I were to start insinuating something based on my personal faith regarding you then you'd have every right to put me in your crosshairs. I'd have asked for it. Now.. If you'd ever like to discuss your spiritual life and
>health.... <g>
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The analogy notwithstanding, I see your point. I can tell you that it is not my goal to do any arm-twisting. I let the facts do that. Rather, my goal is to have a rational and objective discussion..


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John, I think you are very bright but you do not need to constantly prove it, ok? I accept you as you are and I welcome your contributions.
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I don't think I need to constantly prove anything. That is a conclusion on your part. That is not my intent. And thank you for accepting me as I am..


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However, isn't there a time in a court proceeding where a counsel can become "argumentative." That is, argue for argument's sake? Using arguments to coerce a response? I think at times you become argumentative and that you might take greater pleasure in your arguments than on shedding light to the individual you are conversing with.
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I think the preception of me being argumentitve occurs when I start saying things people do not want to hear. I lay the facts out. They in turn, get twisted to mean that I am "bashing" the community, the product, or some individual inparticular.

>IMO we should all lend a helping or "light shedding" hand to those around us - not show them what great logicians we are. Nothing wrong with being "right." We should all IMO aspire to being perfect but I dare say that none of us will ever quite get there in this life. <g>
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I shed the light with honesty..

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Have your high computer standards. You have benefitted the community at large by this. But, please remember that there are higher standards than the standard of Technical Correctness.
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Ok...

>Additionally, I should make sure you understand that if I have at all misunderstood you I also apologize.
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Apolgy accepted..