>>The question was not blown off. Do ADO shapes work??? Yes.
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>For presenting data, yes - to some degree. The individual provider has to support it. Also, we do more in this world than just look at data. We update data. Updating data through a shaped recordset does not work. In fact, updating data through any recordset does not work all that well either...
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>Given all that, shapes really don't work.
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>I will be happy to debate this topic with you....

I don't really care to debate good and bad about ADO with you. I think everyone in the community knows that when you have an ADO question, you're the guy.