>I guess there is no money to be made anymore in development tools for programmers.

That IS an interesting statement. I'm not sure if it is a lack of money, or a lack of interest. Some of those (what I like to call anyway) "weekend hacker" "programming" languages are disturbing. We actually had a consultant come into my workplace and suggest that we do a large-scale C/S app in Access! I find it disturbing that a professional would suggest something like that.....

Just a comment/commentary,
Scot.