>First off all, the VFP printer/setup, sys(1037) is getting you nowhere when dealing with crystal Reports.

yes... that was my problem. VFP's printer setup deal is local only to VFP

>I asume that you've tried oReport.Paperorientation = 1, but found it not to work.

strangely enough only with local printers does it work, and my problem machine use network printer and it didnt want to stick. But I did find an alternative rather than grabbing FOCUS.FLL...

I'm calling Crystal's oReport.PrinterSetup(0) instead of SYS(1037) and it seemed to make changes to printer settings stick on my machine, so now we're loading on the problem machine to see if it's cuts it over there.