>Time to stop the little flamefest, guys. Time to tell Michel what effect

I've stopped; I realized how I got sucked in; and am ashamed of myself for sinking so low and deviating so far off topic.

The problem is WE *HAVE* told Michel & Evan exactly what the problem is, gave them several solutions/options/suggestions and they seem to ignore them and continue to ask, "What do you guys want" like they haven't heard us to begin with.

I'm sick of the whole thing...

You are right; the IRC can be run on *ANY* server; but the "UT" has become a central 'reference' point & big; that it'd be good to have it "linked" to the UT in someway... I'm sounding like a broken record here; so I'll stop.