HI Mark...
I just reread part of your post...

>AFAIK, the only toolbars that work with respect to restoring position are the ones that come with VFP.

I am trying to restore a custom toolbar created in a class with...
this.width=val(cwidthpos)
this.dock(val(cdockpos))
this.height=val(cheightpos)
this.left=val(cleftpos)
this.dock(val(cdockpos))

But it doesn't work particularily well...Depending on the order I restore the properties.

What do you mean by your comment? Sounds like I can't restore the toolbar if it's custom...