>Does anyone have experience with incorporating West Wind into Mere Mortals? If you could share tips, experiences, suggestions, I think many of us could benefit.

If you are building distributed applications with a fat/thin clinet, the marriage between Web Connection and Mere Mortals is almost perfect. The word "almost" is used here because they are two frameworks that can operate independently of each other. In order to "marry" them, make sure your MM bizobj's do not have any GUI logic features in them and can stand on their own.

Also, Web Connection, like MM, offers quite a bit of flexibility. You can use specific class libraries from West Wind in your applications to do specific things. An example would be sending a file to an FTP server using wwIPStuff. Be careful here! MM bizobj objects rely heavily on certain methods and procedures. One in particular, newid, is used by both frameworks. Another, IsComObject, can cause some confusion, although probably not as critical as newid. I have not yet come across a case where newid is used by West Wind.

Although MM is fast and flexible, in general their bizobj's compiled into COM.dlls are fat in comparison to other platforms. (About 700k) In COM world, this is not a good thing, so be careful not to create huge dlls.

If you plan to use VB with MM COM objects, be careful of some of the methods. The GetData method is reserved in VB and will cause conflicts. Simply create an new method, GetDataX() and copy the code to it.

I don't know what else to tell you except that working with both frameworks is challenging and fun. Both Kevin and Rick are real gurus. Kevin is more into applying practical object oriented theories for creating scalable applications, and Rick goes deep into the windows API for creating a set of objets to build fast internet tools. You'll definately learn a lot from both of them.