>I am really sorry to sound so dumb, but if I do it that way,
>what I seem to be faced with it, is no object reference, to be able to
>chage or modify various part of the the object
>
>like say I wanted to make one item visible (where the default was .f.
>i would have said
>oc._list1.visible=.f.
>
>Now what would I use to be able to acomplish that... ?
>
>thanks cindy,.

Bob,

Inside your form object, THIS.Visible = .T.;

outside, loThis = gaForms(x); loThis.Visible = .T.