I think it is a very good tool as well- it is not perfect though ,for example its UI still needs some work IMHO - but as Gary said it is a must have for large projects I am currently writing a product with 150+ tables (and 3-4 times that in views) and I wouldn't dream of doing all this in VFP alone Arnon >Their VFP5 update is good. In addition to new VFP5 features they improved >view management and several other minor problems. Still a must have for >large projects. >Gary > >