Hi Elyse! Did you tried the following? : 1. Stretch your toolbar vertically 2. Select necessary separator from Property sheet 3. Drag-n-Drop by mouse the little grey square on the toolbar exactly between necessary buttons 4. Stretch your toolbar back 5. Save toolbar class. This work fine for me. Have a happy day Vladimir Shevchenko > I can select the separators via the Properties sheet, but that doesn't help > me move them. I can only delete and add new ones. But they don't always > end up where I want them. I've tried adjusting the tab order, but that