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>>Respect.
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>>Ask some VB guys if they get respect, they'll probably say "No."
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>An excellent point. Actually, I met a SQL Server DBA the other day, and in the course of our conversation, he complained that he gets no respect from Oracle people....
Yep.
A lot depends on who you want respect from.
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.