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>>You and I are almost on the same page. If it came down to choosing between two frameworks, I'd have a tough time between MM and VFE. BTW, from what I hear, the framework roundup wasn't a very objective and fair test for any of the frameworks.
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>No, it probably wasn't. But VFE still won :P And I doubt Whil will allow a re-count. <g>
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>I'd probably be very happy with MM if I was up to speed on it (unlike the others!). But VFE has training classes regularly (and Charles Hankey does a great job) so I had a more confidence that I could get up to speed with VFE faster.

MM also has training classes regularly, but the documentation was so good, I found it wasn't necessary to take it in order to get up and running. (Is this the beginning of a framework war?) <g>