Lee, Yep, Newport News Shipbuilding. I'm located in an office building in the Denbigh area, across from Patrick Henry Mall if you know where that's at; near the airport. Notice one of the other VB postings yesterday was from Chesapeake, kinda between us. Sure hope this activity in the VB forum keeps up, as I'll soon have to work on an Access/VB system for the first time in 3 years.