>There have been no complaints or faults found with the machines that read the ballots. The problems have been with the ballots or with the devices [machines] used to mark the ballots. IMO, the underlying problem is with the voter and the advisors who told them to punch the second hole [in Palm Beach county]. I have no sympathy for someone who can not decide [and read the ballot] for themselves. Also, any one too proud to ask for help from one of the precinct workers has no right to complain afterward. Also, ignorance is still not an excuse for the law.

Others, including someone who helped design the Votomatic, think otherwise:

http://www.msnbc.com/local/kvbc/60453.asp

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/15/jackson.punchcards/

>Anectdotally, has anyone noticed what a kid does with an All-Star ballot [MLB, NHL, NBA, etc] after punching the chads? They flip it over and completely remove them from the holes so they get counted. Anyone noticed how they get a dimpled chad? Those are the bottom ballots when more than several are being punched at once. This is a known indication of voting fraud.
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>BTW, has anyone mentioned the DNC ginned part of this controversy up by soliciting a telemarketing firm in Wichita Falls [Texas of all places! I'm so ashamed.] to call registered Democrat voters in Palm Beach county about voting wrong [i.e., for Buchanan]?
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>Give all the under votes to Harry Brown!!!!!