Chris,

>>>Yes, and I have made my decision. It goes past that line. End of argument. *g*
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>>Understood.. I'm sure we can agree to disagree, eh?
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>Until I decide otherwise. *g*

Oh.. Sorry...


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>>>Do you really think that the removal of prayer from schools is the cause of drug use, violence, etc.? I was sure it was the Rolling Stones.
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>>Well, if nothing more than an outward manifestation of an inward trend.
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>>One thing folks haven't asked me though is whom would I fault here?
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>>Care to guess? <g>
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>>The members of this country's churches. Trying to lobby and agitate when they should have been praying. Begging for money on television when they should have been giving what they had to the poor. Teaching that prosperity was God's wish rather than mercy and justice. Helping themselves to the plate when they should have been helping the fatherless, the widow and the displaced. Telling others to get their lives 'right with God' rather than living that example first. And I am probably just as guilty as most.
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>I guessed wrong. I was pretty sure you were going to name the Unitarians.

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Oh good grief.. Don't get me started again.. You're on real thin ice here... <g>

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>>Yet... God loves me, which I do not understand...
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>>You think I'm rough on those outside of the church? Come on in and you might change your mind. <g>
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>>It's distatseful at best.
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>>None of which changes the notion that we all reap what we sow.
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>I am trying so sow an n-tier architecture, and the ground is mightly hard to plow. *g*

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Well, I am personally interested in some of what I've heard is going on around here - particularly from those I've probably managed to get so mad at me they will never help me now. <g>


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>>>Again Doug, who's God? Judaism, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Hindu? And what will the prayer be? Who decides that? Or do we just have a rotating Religion du Jour? (by the way, du Jour is French for "Soup of the Day" *g*)
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>>Well, do you really want to open that can of worms? <g> I suspect not. I'm perfectly willing to take as much time as you'd like discussion this issue but as others have pointed out we're probably better letting it go.
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>Agreed.

I though so.. <g>

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>>>I have no idea where you are going from integrity to teaching our kids they are nothing but animals. I suspect evolution, but can you clarify?
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>>That and much much more. Again, let's move on.
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>Agreed.

Dittos (gosh I like that phrase - wonder why? <g>)

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>>Well, as I mentioned before I'm not sure where this line should be drawn. IOTOH I do object to the willful exclusion of points of view because folks don't agree with them. How are the kids going to learn unless we teach them?
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>Teach them at home.

No problem with that as long as those doing the teaching aren't the normal dunderheads I've seen. Karol is a teacher, I am the son of two teachers and wboth she and I agree that much of the home schooling initiative needs more professionalism - though even then it's a lot better than some schools..

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>>>>It's the whole notion of instilling in kids the sense of responsibility that I think is bad.
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>>>Not sure what you mean here.
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>>Well, think about it a little.. *s*
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>You wrote that the notion of instilling in kids thesense of responsibility is bad. Did you mean that not instilling the sense of responsibility is bad?

Whoops.. Yes, you're quite correct. I do wish ti instill a sense of personal responsibility in children.

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>>>>Where or how you draw that line I don't really know but I think we've gone too far in one direction..
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>>>Like I said in other posts, I'll leave that to the US Supreme Court.
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>>Well, I prefer to go to a higher authority. <g>
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>>Thanks Chris for your thoughtful questions and answers. I appreciate your feedback!
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>You too, no matter how wrong you are. *g*

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Here our words match exactly. It's a miracle!!! <g>

Again, thanks Chris for bieng a champ and 'getting it'.