OK, all those suggestions should have worked, but they all returned me a bigger number than the what I should have been getting. The Control was returning me a yCoord of 300, the TwipsToPixels was returning 12 (1440/120 pixels per inch) so when I multiplied that I got a really big number, when it should have been returning to about 59. So I got to thinking....maybe the stuff on this control is wrong. So I tried something I was sure wouldn't work. I took the yCoord and subtracted the Top of the control. In this case, yCoord was 300 - this.top (243) = 57. Then I tried dropping on the next row, it got the right coordinates. Hard problem just got easy. Thanks for everyone help. I think it was all the right advice if the control was really telling me the right thing.

Kirk