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>this could be because a lot of Fox people have sold their soul to the devil and moved over to VB (making Fox people harder to find).
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>Hmmm... I wonder if Fox people have moved to VB because of a lack of VFP jobs?
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>If you really want to be pissed at somebody - be pissed at MS. After all, as I see it, the problem is not in the devleoper community.
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>Eventually, if you don't market a product, the product dies...
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>I would submit that for some time to come, there will still be a lot of Fox JOBS - not I did not use the word CAREER. They still need to be supported. People still get training..
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>You say this as if it is a bad thing? You see these people as selling their souls. I see them as smart. If you know VB, and you are faced with getting $125/hour for a VB job and $80/hour for a VFP job - and making the timeframes equal and the type of work - the guy who picks the VFP job over the VB job is not only an idiot - he is a lousy business person...
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John,
"moved to VB because of a lack of VFP jobs" - maybe. Please note that I stated "this could be" i.e. conjecture! One crass imbecile (not meant to infer that you are in the same camp) has posted something about "people posting anecdotal ... as if fact ..." without actually stating who the people are. I'm left wondering if this refers to my initial post, or someone else's. I do not know of any substantive research in this area that would allow one to quote specifics. Generalities, sure, we all know that we are in one of "the" fastest moving industries. One that not only has a rate of change, which is itself increasing, but one that also increases in breadth. Who here for example follows peripheral subjects like "Nanotubes for Electronics" (in the December issue of Scientific American), where it states that we can look forward to CPU's with clock frequencies 1000 times greater than today's state of the art Pentium. The field we work in did not exist long ago- read: 15 years ago there were [relatively speaking] only a handful of professionals. Perhaps it is currently in fashion as a University course, and there maybe years, where the number of new graduates is a sizeable proportion of the total number of people working in the field. This, I posit, is extremely unlikely in any other established profession (e.g. accounting, law and medicine). What percentages of these new people have been taught VB? No published research = no figures = no opinion!

"Pissed" - this must be weaker in the U.S. than the U.K. I am not angry at all. "Sold their soul to the devil" - this was only meant figuratively!

"You say this as if it is a bad thing" - I am at a loss to see how you arrive at this conclusion. Whilst I do not claim to be a master of plain English or subtlety, I am very certain that you are stretching interpretative license beyond breaking point!

RE: Jobs / Career - why argue over semantics. In my case approximately 70% of the last decade has been pure Fox. Who decides the figure that determines whether my career is Fox based, or if I've just had a lot of Fox "jobs"?