>Hi all,
>i am trying to find out the workable height of my parent MDI form so that i can place the child forms within it in certain locations. i want a child form to expand the length of the side of the parent form but can't work out how to get it!!!!! i have a menu and a toolbar on the parent. if i use the height of the parent form and subtract the toolbar height i get close but there seems to be an issue with the height of the menu as the child form is still a bit too long. how do i get the height of the menu??

Are you using Height or ScaleHeight for the form?