Fred,

>Containers do have a .Top and a .Left, too.
OK, I get it now (see reply to Mike).

>OBJTOCLIENT works for me. Are you sure your TextBox is IN the container?
yes...it's Marcia Akinsn & Andy Kramek's Combo Grid class...still don't know what the problem was there...will play w/it a little.

Thanks again. J