>I see that the CLASS doesn't have the TOP, LEFT, etc., but the object, based on the class does...makes sense...thanks all...J

>>You mean that in the class designer they're not there (because there is no parent to adjust to) but in all instances of the class they are.
Yep, thanks Mike, that says it....

Still, curious things are happening w/ObjToClient...see post to Fred. Thanks. J