>Yes, without Jefferson I am sure we would still be Brit’s and the world would be a very different place. Would we be speaking English, German or Russian?

Now before you jump in over reacting, I'm not putting him down, and I totally respect his quest for knowledge, but like you say, not everything they did back then is appropriate now, which is what I was saying to John. They werent always right, maybe a little predjudiced.