Mike - OK - i've had some time to think about this some more - cause i had to revisit some stuff over the past 2 days.
you CAN do all the stuff for launching using a startup prg file - and then worry about the 'ON SHUTDOWN' functionality ....

if you startup by wrapping a WSH object, then launching the other apps via the WSH - then you absolutely have an object reference to the apps that you've launched inside the WSH object - and you can call the quit methods in each app that is running in the 'ON SHUTDOWN' concept..

but - when you do a 'CLEAR ALL' - that object will GO AWAY - and you lose all the object references to your other apps. Not a good thing, i would think...

another way to kill the apps is via the method i outlined briefly in my first post - but then the question becomes WHEN do you have this thing fire?

remember - SHUTDOWN is really a hook inside the main _VFP object - ... is it settings you've set there really persistent after you do a 'CLEAR ALL' ? my answer is no - and then you lose any hook functionality thingie that you have.

*sigh* ... but - there surely has to be some other wrapper object out there that will not go away when you do a CLEAR ALL - I'll let you know in this thread if I make any headway - perhaps some other UT's will come up with something.

In the meantime - you can surely set up a prg file that handles the QUIT call to the other apps you want to trap and quit using the outline in my previous post.

hth - mondo regards [Bill]
>Hi All
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>I have VSS launch when I launch VFP by calling a startup program from my config.fpw-like file. In case you wonder why, I have confirmed that VSS integration with the project manager is slower than just switching to VSS, checking out the files and switching back. I also launch the MSDN help at startup.
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>OK, so now you have the background. I'd like to have VSS close when I exit VFP just like the help does.
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>I've been thinking it can be done by instantiating an object which launches VSS. However, if (or when) I issue a CLEAR ALL command, this object will be released and so leaving VFP will not close VSS. Is there any way to keep an object instanced (instantiated?) during a CLEAR ALL?
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>If not, is there some other way to reach this goal?
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>Thanks people!