>I'll give a typical MS response.
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>That isn't 100% true. I don't need a mouse to move a form. Therefore, the titlebar is not required for a form to be "movable".
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Agreed, but the form has to be moveable with the mouse also and this is accomplished with the title bar. So for a form to be "moveable", i.e. Moveable property is .T., would require the presence of a title bar.

>Anyway, the point of the experiment is that with borderstyle set to 1 and titlebar off. If certain properties that are related to the titlebar are true, the form will reset it's own width a little wider each time you open the form.
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>Nowhere in the documentation that I am aware of, does it say forms may resize themselves at design time or run time based on certain property settings.

Agreed.