>>>>>>I just wish I could find the time to start learning a new language as thoroughly as I know VFP. With two kids and a full-time job, there just aren't enough hours in a day!
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>>>>>You have my heartiest agreement on this one ... and I refuse to neglect my family. :-)
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>>>>At nights I study martial arts. On the weekends, it's family time!
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>>>On my first reading I added an extra "i" to "martial" and wondered want the difference was between that and "family time".:-) Of course, with some of the families I've know "martial arts" is required.< bg >
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>>LOL! I got my wife into the martial arts because she was becomming so resentful of all the time I was spending practicing it. She goes in the mornings with the kids, and I go to night classes. We make it a point to watch each other test, but since we've made it a family affair, we've pretty much vented most of our aggression in the dojo. It all seems to work out. I'm just glad I decided to do this instead of a gun club!
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>I think if we ever meet, I'll just keep my hands in my pockets.:-)

Where I am practicing now is the first Dojo where non-violence is actually taught as a form of Martial Arts. The style is Israeli Survival. My teacher, Moti Horenstein, used to be in the Israeli Special Forces. He has seen his share of violence. He is famous in martial arts community because of his international fight record. He is the reigning Muay Thai kickboxing Champion of Thailand, has faught in the Ultimate Championships, and done all kinds of bare-knuckle cage fighting all over the world.

Despite his impressive fight record, he does not expect his students to follow him unless they want to. There is a fair amount of freedom in setting your own goals. I am 43. Although I'm in pretty good shape, I have no desire to "duke it out" with kids twenty years younger than myself (unless it's some VB geek, trying to take away my VFP!)

In case you're interested: http://www.survivalhisardut.com/