>Doug,
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>I have pretty much decided that I will do everything in my power to build such a compelling solution with VFP that MSFT (other than the VFP team) will have to take notice. It is my hope that by setting an example with real-world products solving real-world issues that this will put to rest the nay-sayers and those who seem to define their existence as critics of those who do provide real-world solutions.
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>Right now the components are: VFP, Stonefield Database stuff (How's that for brown nosing? <g>), Rick Strahl's Web Connection (very cool product) and a cool product from www.imecominc.com called 'Print-2-Image' that my buddy Wayne Willingham turned me on to.
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>As far as the VFP teams goes I'd think your observations are dead on. Calvin, Randy, Gene, Robert, Ricardo and I'd imagine most all of the others have had to develop deliverables as consultants after all. If any of them have not been provate developers at some point in their careers I am not aware of that fact. It just stumps me that some haven't figured this out. <g>
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>As far as the 'tip of the iceberg' stuff goes I like the dusk analogy. Smooth, serene on top of the lake and paddling like aitch-eee-double-hockey-sticks underneath. <g>
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Sharks? Piranhas? :)