That did it, thanks !

>Hi Jaime,
>
>Try SET SYSMENU OFF. You could then use SET SYSMENU ON to restore it.
>
>Scott
>
>>Hi All
>>I'd like to remove the menu completely. When I SET SYSMENU TO, it stills leaves the gray 'placeholder' for the menu. In Office applications, this menu bar behaves as a toolbar, and thus can be closed ( or moved ). How can i programatically achieve this? Also, if it's possible, how do i bring it back, by using SET SYSMENU TO DEFAULT?