I actually got the Sun stuff in the mail a while back. I have not had the time to install it but hope to do so in the next week or so. This is good information. Thanks..

Tommy

Oh yea.. nice last name :)

>I'd recommend just using JDK 1.3 from Sun. The price is right. (Free)
>It does all the things you are likely to want to do.
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>If you really want a GUI IDE, then you can download the Community Edition of
>Forte for Java (also from Sun). I find it a little slow to start up but it has some nice capabilities like letting you browse for a class or JAR file and add it to the Forte Explorer window and that file will be "in" your classpath when you compile. You can also drill down into the JAR file and into the classes using introspection to expose the methods and properties.
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>John Martin