>>>What does "upstate" mean? Specificly "upstate New York"? I used to think it meant "north" but now I am thinking "out of metro New York".
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>>Very close, Evan. Definition will vary person to person. My personal favorite - look at a map of NY and extend the horizontal PA border east to CT.
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>I can see that from the map now, thanks
>http://www.nuwebny.com/nyarea.htm

You are welcome. Interesting link, BTW.