>OTOH, it requires skills and understanding and unfortunately those things come more by experience than anything you read in a book or learn in a class...

I'm glad you said that cause I was just looking up your thread on DoubleImpact tours activity so I'll jsut post here.

Here's my idea.

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How bout a class where you and Markus teach how to model a project? How to cost a project. Is it worth it to model it? Is nTier really worth the effort? How hard is it? I think it's presented or talked about harder than it is. Let people see first hand. How many people really aren't sold on it yet? A requirements book I'm reading suggested at EPS bookshelf says something like 60% of cost waste is due to not getting requirements right? So there's money back to the customer or firm sending a student right there.

Would you enjoy taking for instance TasTraders a familir project and show the Rational Unified Process to deriving the requirements, use cases and models and build it nTier? Regardless of future technologies do you feel this is here to stay? Seems to me it is and growing all the time.