Ok, I feel like the village idiot. I've modified the user table to include 2 more fields, which I have added to the form in the cuserform (yes, I did not subclass, this is just an experiment on a laptop that I can wipe at any time) by copying the textbox groups. I can't get these to update, even though the original fullname one does. I even changed the sources around, but to no avail. The data goes into the view, but not on into the table. I've looked at the business objects, but I don't see anything limiting the update to the original fields on the form. What have I missed? Otherwise, Please shoot me and put me out of my misery.

thanks much!

Laurisa