Well then there is the case of the blind person getting a ride to the ATM and not wanting to tell the driver what his pin number is so he uses the Braille keypad to enter his pin number... but he has gota trust someone cause the 20's and 1's are the same size...



>Les,
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>>>Alex,
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>>>>>The one I like was the Braille instructions on the multi-story elevator in the parking garage letting you know what floor you were on.
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>>>>>So you could find your car and drive out?
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>>>>There are braille signs next to the art pieces in the Guggenheim museum in NY.
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>>>>Go figure...
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>>>>Alex
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>>><g>
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>>>Whoops..
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>>>The thing is is that the blind individual is more than likely the one who would have to use the Braille but how would they know where to look. The sighted could simply read the description I suppose since in either case the blind would need a guide.
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>>>This is the stupidity of political correctness gone too far. Help folks? You bet.
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>>Actually, this is all a nice example of user interface design issues.
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>>When you get in a lift, you know that the buttons will be on either the left or right hand side of the doors. They will be arranged in the same order as the floors, that is highest floor at the top and lowest basement at the bottom. They will use standard arrangements of symbols for the standard floors (e.g G for Ground, 1 for 1st, 2 for 2nd etc). There will also be a display, either above the door or above the buttons that show which floor you are on, and give an indication of which direction you are moving.
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>>You never need a manual to operate the lift. Even a blind person knows where to find the lift buttons.
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>>Now, if the lift were a web page (or a bad application), the buttons would be at random locations around the lift, and you would need to touch each of them in turn to work out what they did ('mouse over'). You would never know which floor you were on, unless you opened the door and looked out. And of course, you would never know which direction you were moving - the lift would move at random, according to some obscure rule, because the lift designer knows better than the user where the user wants to go. If you wanted to go from, say basement to roof, you'd probably have to get out at the ground floor and get in again.
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>>Les
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>>By the way, as for the lift buttons with Braille: had you ever considered that blind people often use cars - as passengers? It would make them feel less like second class citizens if they could operate the lift for their driver.
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>>L.
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>Oh, I know they do. I'm not at all against helping them. It's just funny to see, for example, a Braille keypad at a drive up automatic teller machine. A sighted person doesn't need a sightless person to read the information to them whereas a sightless person driving a car through a drive-up location is, well, ludicrous. It's just plain silly... <g>
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>Personally I think that those who make these signs probably decided to make one model rather than two to save costs.
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>As far as elevators go, I think it's a great idea. It's when you combine that with parking garages or drive throughs that I find funny.