Did that

it's not a error (with a error message)

I think it's a vfp glich

>>Well nothing made a bit of difference
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>>I can cheat and do
>>_screen.windowstate = 1
>>_screen.windowstate = 0
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>>and everything looks fine, but you see a minimize then a restore, so it looks like the program is having a seizure
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>Is it all of your controls that are not refreshing or just some of them? Only certain types of controls? You might want to try this if it's a fairly isolated problem:
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>In the Refresh method of the control with a problem, try a this.Visible = .t. and see if that changes anything.