Jerry,

>The install dialog give you the option of having the install program add menu items to KDE and GNOME menus. But, it is not WM dependent. The startup program is called startkylix and is, in my case, located in /usr/local/kylix.

Sweet. THat sounds nice and simple!

>Curious: do you use GTKDesktop with fvwm?

Nope, just fvwm (not even fvwm95). Once I figured out how to use the pager and the menuing system in the system.fvwmrc, I never wanted to invest in anything else. fvwm has all the power I need! I sometimes miss drag-and-drop, but I don't really use that a lot anyway even in Windows...

>A couple of weeks ago I decided to test the speed of StarOffice 5.2 on my KDE 2.1 desktop vs FVWM95. I could dectect no meaningful difference in speed. Both started up in 15 +- 1 seconds the first time, and under 2 seconds the second and succeeding times. (Athlon 1GHz with 512MB of RAM)

Interesting...so I take it that StarOffice uses no libs common to one or the other window manager, so load times are about the same?

>Back to Kylix. The dozen or so demo apps that come with it illustrate its full range of capabilities. For example: the MDI notepad example has 12 controls dropped onto the form and the main.pas contains 63 lines of code. Most appears to be auto-generated when properties in the controls were filled in. Extremely powerful. Of course the usual F9 can run it or one can step through the code line by line. There are some cautions. They don't recommend using the OpenSource API to create your own widgets, yet. And, there are some curious disclaimers in the README. One calls the code unsupported because it was 'gratuitiously given', implying that I didn't pay any money for it.
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>The companion cd contains a server & client copy of Interbase 6.0, with no deployment allowed. Or, one could deploy using OpenSource InterBase 6.0, but they say it is 'not certified', what ever that means. One thing that stands out is the very powerful DBGrid, along with the other data-aware controls.
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>Currently, I'd classify Kylix as the MOST powerful GUI-RAD available on Linux, regardless of price. Just guestimating, I'd say it will take KDevelop (C++) at least a year or more to even come close to Kylix. But those folks constantly suprise me with the rapidity of their development.

Wow, that is quite an endorsement considering I have seen you (and others) rave about KDevelop.

Again, thanks for all of this great info! I guess I have until August to decide about getting Kylix for myself! Should be plenty of impressions out by then!

Have a great weekend!

JoeK