John,

>Doug
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>>>That is an entirely un-Biblical and un-Christian idea. God helps thoise who cannot help themselves.<<
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>This from the man who says he plays to win, Win, WIN. Judge not lest you be judged.
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>Regards
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>JR

You're not talking about me are you? <g>

Nothing wrong with excellence is there John? Are you saying that you run your company in such a fashion that you have designed it to fail? I hardly think you do and I'd be sorely disappointed in you if you did.

This world thinks Christians are weak and you seem to have bought into that hook, line & sinker. <g> If you think that you've quite a lot to learn before you cease making statments not based in knowledge.

Regardless, let me assert that I do 'play to win'. I see no rational benefit in playing to lose. Do you? If you do not, why is it ok for you and not for me? Just curious as to your thinking process here.. <g> Now, I do not believe that winning should come at the expense of someone else if that is what you are asserting about me. I'm surprised you have "judged" my character to be so poor, particularly in the face of the evidence here and my own straightforward assertions to the contrary. You do actually digest what I write in my messages, don't you? <g>

Oh.. That bit about judging.. You do understand that in the original language there is a marked difference between determination and condemnation right? There's no place for a Christian to condemn someone else but there is every right to tell someone that there will be certain ends to certain actions. Who knows whether or not that person will change? There are indeed injunctions for us to make determinations though - and there is a difference. You were probably just ignorant of this.

BTW.. Out of courtesy I'm going to ask for a second time that if you wish to pursue this line of discussion that you start another thread in the Chatter section. I'm trying very hard to do that and at the same time not allow false statements go unchallenged. I'd be more than happy to continue here but would again please ask that you show an equal amount of respect for Michel and his desires to keep this forum as focused on technical issues as is possible, ok?

Thanks!