>and while the Java environment isn't the fastest there are situations that are applicable and Visual Age for Java 3.0, or Forte, or some other tools will be useful.
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>This has been addressed effectively with server side compiled applets in Java 2.0, replacing the Java 1.1 method of downloading code and then compiling on the local machine. As a result, JRUN, and the Oracle Java apps run much faster than before. MS C# is compiled Javascript, and appears to have the potential of performance gains as well.

True enough, but "faster than before" is still not fast enough. The main guy on our Oracle-Java-webpage intranet project is brilliant (having a PhD in Math helps) and he still complains about speed and complications of coding. Way too much coding still required, he says. I think he means the process is not RAD yet.