>>>and while the Java environment isn't the fastest there are situations that are applicable and Visual Age for Java 3.0, or Forte, or some other tools will be useful.
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>>>This has been addressed effectively with server side compiled applets in Java 2.0, replacing the Java 1.1 method of downloading code and then compiling on the local machine. As a result, JRUN, and the Oracle Java apps run much faster than before. MS C# is compiled Javascript, and appears to have the potential of performance gains as well.
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>>True enough, but "faster than before" is still not fast enough. The main guy on our Oracle-Java-webpage intranet project is brilliant (having a PhD in Math helps) and he still complains about speed and complications of coding. Way too much coding still required, he says. I think he means the process is not RAD yet.
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>Hey Jerry,
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> Just curious -- do you know if he's using any particular component library or IDE (JBuilder, Visual Age, Forte, etc)? Which one(s)?
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>Steven-

I just asked him. He is using Toad and Oracle all the way. He is storing his html pages as plsql proceedures in Oracle packages, and hand coding everything for speed. He doesn't see XML being useful in our particular situation. He is fussing with page loading speeds in the sub 3 second catagory, and this are forms with many buttons, edit boxes, etc., on them.