>>Or does anyone else get bleedin' tired of having to deal with people who: 1) don't know Fox and 2) haven't attempted to learn Fox yet think they can tell everyone what's wrong with Fox? If I hear one more contractor/consultant make the statement "Fox is ok to use until you decide to move the system into a REAL database" I'm gonna hurt something!
>>And the gods help us if we didn't hire these people to do a project in Fox!
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>>Whew.....thanks....I'm feeling better now. I'll climb off my soapbox and let ya'll get back to real problems now.
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>Add this one....
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>I'm trying to get 3 new portables for me and my team. I asked for high end ones, suitable for applications development. The conversation went as follows:
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>IS: What apps are you developing and what language/software do you need?
>Jen: Several apps in VFP 3.0, upgrading to VFP 5.0. We already own VFP.
>IS: You can't develop in VFP, it's not a supported product. You have to use Access. We can't support VFP.
>Jen: I don't need support. I have a team of 3 people with a combined 24+ years experience in xBASE language development, 8+ in VFP 3.0/5.0 alone.
>IS: You have to develop in Access -- it's company policy.
>Jen: Access will not handle the
> i) security requirements,
> ii) number of users,
> iii) volume of data and transactions.
> (gave them a bunch of numbers here)
>IS: [long pause] Oh, how come you are developing this level of apps?
>Jen: I inherited some of them written in 4D on the Mac, I converted the first to a crossplatform (Mac/PC) VFP app when you forced us to switch to PCs.
>IS: We didn't support 4D.
>Jen: I know........
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>I'm getting the portables
>The IS "help" desk tech is still breathing
>
>Jen
I'm amazed....that they are still breathing that it. Not the situation. We have our own version.

Management: We're a VB shop.

Programmer: I thought we were a OOP shop

Management: We are, we're a VB shop

Programmer: But VB is object based, not object oriented

Management: We're a VB shop

Programmer: Ok, what's our back-end gonna be?

Management: We're a VB shop

Programmer: But VB doesn't 'do' data, what's our back-end gonna be?

Management: We're a VB shop

And so forth. 'course we only have 1 VB project in development. Everything else is VFP/Sybase, VFP, or MicroFocus COBOL.