Michael,

There must be some conspiracy going on here - your message under "Chatter" had a BLANK title!

Well, I don't think the docs, Online Help or the books, are very useful at all!

Sure, they tell you *some* things, but we need to know much much more. It goes WAY beyond the "engine", which I agree is CRAP (repeat: CRAP!).

I have a big long list of things I *NEED* to know but which are absent from ANY of the VFP docs. Which means, by the way, that it is *ALL* also absent from thrid-party books, since clearly they rely on the docs plus their experience to write the books!

My favourite simple example is the AddItem and AddListItem methods. Have a read of each. Now go and use the col# parameter and see what you get! Now go and delete an item added with AddListItem, add a few more, then try to add an item with the same nItemID as the formerly deleted item to the END of the list. Can't be done!

This is the SIMPLE stuff.

Personally I would move for vastly improved DOCS BEFORE I would vote for any fancy new functionality. As it now stands we can rely on NOTHING, cuase nothing is documented as fact. Can't write secure PRODUCTION-quality apps with that kind of crap!

Regards,
Jim N

>Does anyone else feel that the VFP Online Docs leave much to be desired? Sure, the content is great, but the document engine is laughable. It doesn't support the MS Wheel mouse. So, you are forced to use the arrow buttons for scrolling. Use the keyboard down arrow, you say? Nope. There's a bug that once you release the down-arrow key it won't work anymore until you click on the frame you are trying to scroll again.
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>The printing is kludgy. Any graphics found in the documents are printed poorly or not at all. Attempting to work around it by copying and pasting into Word sounds like a good workaround, right? Nay. For some reason when you copy text and graphics, only the text is copied. You can't copy any of the graphics.
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>Oh, to top all this off, I regularly get GPF's using it. Where do I want to go today? To the bookstore to get printed documentation.