>>IHMO, Java will get a good share of these converts, too.
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>Yeah, Java running on non-MS operating systems. MS has just taken VM out of Windows XP.
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>Is this not the biggest bunch of crap you ever heard of. Folk running XP will get "blank" when visiting Web Sites that rely on Java. MS is allowing the download of a plug-in - big frickin deal - how many novice home users are going to take the time (or know how) to download the plug-in.
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>If we as developers can't see the writing on the wall here, then we are just plain stupid. The more MS gets away with this crap, the more stupid we allow ourselves to become.


I'm still trying to figure out if that last sentence makes sence but anyway, MS is under no obligation to provide JVM any more than it is obligated to provide support for Flash or Shockwave content. Which it isn't. Java developers will just have to provide alternative content like Macromedia folks have always done for those who don't bother with downloading plugins. The way I see it, if someone has a personal problem with BG, hey, buy Linux.

You might want to mark this thread, it's not often you will hear me taking up sides with The Borg.