>Tom,
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>>>Tom,
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>>>>Len;
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>>>>Reminds me of the song by the Irish group "The Dubliner’s" “The Hiring Fair”. The recently hired farm hand upon complaining to the farmer he was being worked to death because of the long hours and hard work combined with little or no food and his bones showing through his skin receives this reassurance from the farmer “That’s alright – there are plenty more like you where you came from (the hiring fair)”!
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>>>>Next!!!
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>>>>Tom
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>>>I worked for a fellow in Fair Oaks, Ca several years back. I usually worked from 8:00am to 11:00pm-2:0am six days a week, sometimes seven. I chose to do this as I was a rookie programmer and I wanted the experience. My choice.
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>>>After a year or so I had worked my way into the structure to the point that I was in something of a place of having some leverage as I was the owner of some fairly important code. I then started a six month cycle of asking for a pay increase about once a month - and I did so very respectfully and without any belligerance. I was turned down flatly every time, usually with the excuse of not having any $$, though he could extract 500,000 from his accounts at a whim. He was a great guy to work for s I learned the value of a dollar so I'm not complaining about his management method, just explaining it. No one forced me to stay...
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>>>Anyway, after this six month period of time I came to the conclusion that I'd have to take matters into my own hand. About 4 1/2 months later I secured employment at UC Davis. IOW, I had a formal offer. I went back to my employer and gave him my resignation. He immediately stated, "I'll give you a $500 dollar a month raise", to which I replied, "Too late. You should have done that six months ago." I then negotiated a computer out of him so I could finish some work I was doing in exchange for the computer.
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>>>Beat him at his own game. <g>
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>>>Please understand.. I don't fault him for running his business the way he did. That was his choice. I stayed there by my choice. When I wasn't able to make the kinds of changes I thought were warranted I chose to leave - on my terms.
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>>>It was at that point I started learning how to make my own decisions rather than let others dictate them to me. That's also the reason I am so adament about the notion that some folks around here should not sell themselves short on their abilities to learn new technologies should VFP go away. Just plain silly IMO...
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>>Doug;
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>>We lived in Fair Oaks from August 1994 to February 1995. Not too far from Trader Joe's. U.C. Davis had a FoxPro course as I recall. How did you end up in Utah?
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>>Tom
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>My wife is from Utah. The craft store was called Your Creations, which is where I did the long hours. When I worked at UC Davis (until late 1991) I worked at the Extension which, of course, was where folks would take their FoxPro classes through. Helped work on the software that did the mailings and so forth.

Doug;

I had better be careful - my wife is from Peru. Who knows where we will end up living?

Tom