The removal of JAVA VM had more to do with the MS and Sun lawsuit settlement than MS trying to cut JAVA out.

Sun cut their own throat on this one.

Jim Eddins

>>IHMO, Java will get a good share of these converts, too.
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>Yeah, Java running on non-MS operating systems. MS has just taken VM out of Windows XP.
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>Is this not the biggest bunch of crap you ever heard of. Folk running XP will get "blank" when visiting Web Sites that rely on Java. MS is allowing the download of a plug-in - big frickin deal - how many novice home users are going to take the time (or know how) to download the plug-in.
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>If we as developers can't see the writing on the wall here, then we are just plain stupid. The more MS gets away with this crap, the more stupid we allow ourselves to become.