>I'm glad to hear someone like you say this, because I agree that a zero-bug product is unrealistic. I'm not proud to say so in a forum such as this one, but our product will ship in the next couple of months with known bugs. Sure, we will fix all of the ones users are most likely to come across, but ones that occur in very limited situations will ship with the release. At some point, you have to say that some fixes can wait until after release. Shipping the product has to become a priority, or like you said, it will never happen. Although it may have not been accurate, I remember reading that Windows 2000 shipped with around 65,000 known bugs, just no "showstoppers". I think most will agree that it is a significantly better product than previous versions.

I've seen a conversation similar to this thread in every beta I've been part of. There's always a group of people who would prefer to wait a little longer and get more bugs. Susan Graham, now retired from Microsoft, coined the following to explain why the product was going out as is: Shipping is a Feature.

If you check the beta t-shirts from one of the Fox betas (I think it was 3.0, but I'm not sure), you'll see "SIAF" on them for "shipping is a feature."

Tamar