>>Why? He wants a Volvo as his first car, and with you two, I'll end up being badgered about it until he gets it. No thanks.:-)
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>So what does it matter to you what he wants for his first car? If he can afford the car and the insurance, that's his business.

< g > That's what we tell him. But we did buy his older brother a car when he was 16, so we're kind of caught.

>Tamar (who might, maybe, buy her kids a car when they graduate from college, but definitely not before)

Well, the car is his birthday/high school graduation/Christmas present. He turned 18 on the first of this month, and he's entering his senior year in H.S. < George grumbles that his parents never bought him a car, nor sent him on a trip to Spain or Cancun, then remembers that he went to private school while his kids have gone to public schools >