In VFP7.0 top level+grid+shape bug is corrected.
Cetin
>Cetin,
> what is different about VFP7.0? I wound up using the shape instead of the container because the form has a lot of text boxes and it is much easyer to control the order if they are all in one object (the form).
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> By the way, thanks to all of you for your help.
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>John
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>>John,
>>If not a top level form with a grid or VFP7.0 then you could use a shape. Otherwise use a container which works in all cases and nicer for grouping objects.
>>Cetin