Kevin-

To add to my reply. I think that you are dealing with a lot of variables at this point, and my suggestion would be to simply the case. Make a copy of your form and strip everything out except for one of the problem areas. For example for the msgsvc issue.

See if you can nail down one of the problems. It might tell you the answer to all, or at least solve one, but it's a common technique for focusing in on a problem.