>Hey! I have just about every book Whil has published and I spend a lot every year on my skill set - such as it is. <g>
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>Maybe you were talking about all those other tightwads?? <g>

If you're willing to spend the ~US$20 for the book, then you're not the tightwad to which I refer. :-)

>I'll go take alook at your references. That's really all I usually need but having someone's persprctive like yours helps as well.

The sites I referenced are from the main professional software testing magazine that I know of (STQE stands for Software Testing Quality Engineering). It amazes me that we have a bazillion magazines related to software dev, but only one major mag for testing said software. There are mailing lists and the like, but only one decent print magazine. And people think VFP gets no respect. ;-)

> I'm looking at getting myself and my developers the FoxPro Visual UML stuff as well to help discipline their thought processes and so forth.

Good idea. As we testers say, "you can't test in quality." :-)

>I hear a lot of whining about how MSFT does this or doesn't do that (most of which I disregard as simple griping) but I am of the notion that I need to take responsibility. I just need pointers and I'd bet a lot of the others do as well.

Noted. As I develop my testing session, I'll try to dredge up good URLs and other pointers on how to assure good quality software for the small shop (what I think will be my main audience). Consider the San Diego session Beta 2, though it will have good info that most haven't ever considered, and I think it will be a good session regardless. Based on feedback from that, I'll refine it further. Since I was once a small shop before my assimilation, the session should be good enough to be golden. For instance, I have considered how one sells testing to the client, knowing that they just want to pay for written code. :-)