Mike,

>Read what I said again, I am talking about the bottom line. And for the looks of it, thats the way MS Stock holders are thinking too.

I did read what you said, and it wasn't about money, but about people honestly using the stuff, etc. etc. In other words, it didn't really focus on whether or not there is a _financial_ problem in the first place. The estimate of true money lost to piracy are hand-waving at best, which is all I have been trying to say throughout most of this discussion...

JoeK